George_o/c Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Πο πο θα έχουν πολύ φάση οι Bulldozer στα άζωτα, το κυνήγι των απόλυτων MHz! Τρελή αδρεναλίνη να ξεπερνάς τα 7.5GHz, ανεξαρτήτως του τι CPU χρησιμοποιείς. Ωραίος ο hicookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 bd is in the graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tritonas00 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 bd is in the graph. Nαι , την επομενη φορα να βαλουν και τον Pentium 4 στο graph... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tritonas00 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 δεν μπορω να διακρινω κατι σε 2600 / 2500 , εκτος αν υπαρχουν και αλλες μπαρες. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 αν δεις καλυτερα, εχει και σειρα 2ΧΧΧ και σειρα 3ΧΧΧ. και νομιζω πως ο 980 ειναι ενα καλο σημειο αναφορας. δεν ξερω αν ισχυει η ποιος το εκανε η κατι αλλο. για αυτο δεν μπορω να πω κατι σιγουρο. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billpeppas Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Σοβαρά τώρα, θα ασχολούμαστε με δήθεν graphs από το....... ozeros.com ? Αφού έχει score από Core i7 3xxx τότε είναι σίγουρα legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 φτιαξε και συ ενα να βαλουμε απο το benchzone οτι βλεπω το ποσταρω. δεν ξερω ξαναλεω τι ισχυει και τι οχι. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Troll mode on. 10 ώρες έμειναν ακόμα! Άντε! Άντε! Άντε! Άντε! Άντε να γελάσουμε λίγο! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4ckerMan Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 [Let the spam start:mode on] Τρολλς.!! dont troll [Let the spam start:mode off] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCatt Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Λοιπον ειναι περασμενες 12 που ειναι τε ρεβιουζ λεμε? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tritonas00 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 AMD FX: Some benchmarks :lolling::lolling: So according to this, it performs ~16% better than 1100T at stock :lolling::lolling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Λοιπον ειναι περασμενες 12 που ειναι τε ρεβιουζ λεμε? κοιμησου τωρα και αυριο το πρωι θα τα δεις. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billpeppas Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 AMD Bulldozer Review - BenchZone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCatt Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 AMD Bulldozer Review - BenchZone Mαλιστα...Για τα γελια δηλαδη? ;P.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Το NDA έληξε πριν 6 λεπτά AMD FX 8150 processor review AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 Processor Review AMD FX-8150 Black Edition 8-Core Processor vs Core i7-2600K Review - Introduction AMD FX-8150, FX-8120, FX-6100 and FX-4170 - Introduction Nejsiln?j?? Bulldozer: recenze osmij?dra AMD FX-8150 | ExtraHardware AMD Bulldozer ? procesory FX-8150 a 8120 v testu (1/2) oZeros Review: AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 AMD FX-8150 Processor Review - Bulldozer Arrives - x264 HD Encoding - Legit Reviews HARDOCP - Conclusions - AMD Bulldozer / FX-8150 Desktop Performance Review Edited October 12, 2011 by George_o/c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Σε σχέση με 2500K και 2600K δεν τα πάει και πολύ καλά Δείτε memory scaling, σχεδόν μηδαμινό: Κατανάλωση - OMG στα ίδια με τον Phenom II X6 1100T - κοιτάξτε πόσο περισσότερο σε σχέση με SandyBridge Edited October 12, 2011 by George_o/c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tritonas00 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 AAAAAAAAAXAXAXAXAXAXAXXAAXXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten-Ra Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 http://atenra.blog.com/2011/10/12/amd-fx-processor-launch/ Aten-Ra: What IPC improvements will we see against Deneb or Thuban in single Thread and Multi thread applications?AMD: Bulldozer is a new and radically different core architecture making it impossible to draw IPC parallels to any previous design. With the design of the AMD FX, we focused on offering the highest possible instructions per watt. AMD FX is designed with current and future workloads in mind. At the same time, we have added the new instruction sets and as improvements are realized in applications and operating systems (like the Windows 8 scheduler improvements), we believe performance will increase. Note: In older apps, either compiled with an older compiler, or those using older instructions will see FX at a disadvantage. Again this was a design decision. Design for todayʼs apps and the future was the engineering mantra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Εντάξει, εγώ μετά που είδα του lab501 τα αποτελέσματα, επειδή σας είπα ότι τους εμπιστεύομαι τους Ρουμάνους φίλους μας, ήξερα ότι πλέον ο FX8150 όντως θα είναι χειρότερος από 2600Κ. Για τους overclockers που παίζουν με cascade/LN2 (hwbox ) θα έχουν πολύ πλάκα οι επεξεργαστές αυτοί. Όμως ο υπόλοιπος κόσμος νομίζω ότι διαβάζοντας τα review θα καταλάβει ότι αξίζει περισσότερο να πάρει 2500K ή 2600Κ. Αν σώνει και καλά θέλει κάποιος AMD σύστημα, διαβάζοντας τα review θα καταλάβει ότι αξίζει περισσότερο ο Phenom II X6 1100T. Όπως τα λέγαμε από την αρχή, έτσι και τώρα. SandyBridge > Bulldozer και η ιστορία συνεχίζεται. HardwareCanucks As you can see, the FX-8150 does indeed demonstrate its superiority in all the highly multi-threaded applications, as it clearly should since it's an eight-core chip competing against a four-core one. However, it gets trampled in more lightly threaded programs, as well as most games. The exception to this is in the very latest games where the Zambezi chip still loses, but by an insignificant amount. Based on our talks with AMD, they firmly assert that it is in these newer pieces of software that Zambezi's supposedly forward-looking architecture can really shine. When compared with the $315 Core i7-2600K, the FX-8150 comes out looking even worse, since the four-core/eight-thread HyperThreading-enabled Intel chip can more than match the Zambezi's multi-threading performance in most applications. Overall then, while Zambezi might have been a very capable competitor to Intel's Bloomfield LGA1366 and Lynnfield LGA1156 series, its allure whithers when placed head-to-head against modern-day Sandy Bridge processors. When compared to AMD's previous flagship four-core Phenom II X4 980, the FX-8150 obviously comes out looking quite rosy, except for the few instances where its single-threaded performance is revealed to be lacking. However, when compared to the Phenom II X6 1100T things get cloudy again. It is hard to find value in the $245 FX-8150 when the X6 1100T retails for a mere $190. That is almost 30% cheaper and you are getting very similar performance in all but the most highly-threaded applications. With 3 to 4 years of development time, a new manufacturing process, and twice as many transistors as a Phenom II X6, you can't blame us for being slightly disappointed. Heck, the FX-8150 doesn't even consume less power than the Phenom II X6 1100T. ============= ============= ============= VR-Zone Our readers will be thoroughly disappointed with the overall lackadaisical showing of the new AMD FX-8150 today, especially with the ridiculous overclocked power consumption figures on load. The review team took great lengths to check and recheck our benchmarks and methology and even used different motherboards, bios versions, drivers and chips, but the results remained stubbornly the same. People living in denial/Spin doctors/I have 0 friends may argue that the results are "good enough" or that our software suite is "not optimized for the new instruction sets" - you really can't build a competitive solution only for the future and expect every piece of software from Angry Birds to business mission critical applications to operating systems to be recompiled and tested overnight just to support a niche architecture. Moreover not every practical workload can utilize the new instruction sets without significant algorithmic changes and more crucially most software applications today remain largely single-threaded. Clock for clock in multithreading heavy scenarios the FX-8150 is typically behind the quad core i7-2600K by ~20%, and in single-threaded workloads it gets totally annihilated. Overclocking was also nothing to shout about, as it needed a significant voltage bump to even reach a (prime stable) 4.7GHz on noisy air. Bluntly, the performance we are seeing from the 8-core FX-8150 today is only marginally better than last year's high end quad core Intel i7 "Nehelam" and AMD's own Phenom II "Thuban" 6-core offerings, and definitely not a "i7-990X killer" as hyped over the last few months. No disrespect intended to the record holders but disabling cores to achieve high frequencies is just going to confuse unsuspecting buyers and split-second CPU-Z screenshots is not a measure of true stability. Pricing wise (US$245) it is also more expensive than the Intel i5-2500K (US$219.99), which should be on par or ahead performance and overclocking wise despite its 4-core/thread handicap. However, in some markets a sub US$100 water cooling solution will be bundled, making it better value for money and frankly quite necessary considering its humongous power output while overclocking. ============ ============ ============ Guru3D You have been able to see that the FX 8150 mostly is competing with the Core i5 2500 (which costs 180 EUR by the way). Once multithreading kicks in well, performance quickly rises and you'll see Core i7 2600 (260 EUR) performance. Surprisingly enough even the Phenom II X6 1100T (170 EUR) stands ground and is mostly on par with the FX 8150 a lot of the time, that complicates things even more. So where do we need to position the FX 8150 then? I mean, this is supposed to be AMD's fastest processor. Concluding then. The reality remains that for me personally I would have preferred a faster per core performing AMD quad-core processor rather then an eight-core processor with just 'nice' per core performance. Who knows, for you, that just might not be the case. It's going to be interesting to see what you as an end-user will prefer. Overall though, the AMD FX 8150 is a processor we can recommend for the upper segment of mid-range computers at best. ============= ============= ============= Θάψιμο από Tom's Hardware So, letʼs say someone puts Core i5-2500K and FX-8150 in front of you. The Core i5 costs $220 bucks, and the FX runs $245. Which one do you buy? If itʼs me, Iʼm going with the Core i5. I gave the -2500K a Tomʼs Hardware Recommended Buy award back in January, and I stick by that recommendation almost a year later. ============= ============= ============= Hardwareheaven 10/10 και 9/10 με τέτοιες επιδόσεις; Πουλημένο review, μην το διαβάσετε καν παίδες. ============= ============= ============= Εντάξει πάντως δεν μπορείς να πεις ότι τα θάβουν στους επιλόγους τους όλοι. Οι περισσότεροι το πάνε διπλωματικά το θέμα - είχε δίκιο ο Monstru όταν είπε ότι η AMD κάλεσε το press για damage control. Παντού γίνεται αυτό! Edited October 12, 2011 by George_o/c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tritonas00 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Bulldozer Arrives: AMD FX-8150 Review > Application Performance - TechSpot Reviews ΟΤΙ ΝΑ ΝΑΙ Ποσο κανει ειπαμε αυτη η πατατα? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Το NDA έληξε πριν 6 λεπτά AMD FX 8150 processor review AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 Processor Review AMD FX-8150 Black Edition 8-Core Processor vs Core i7-2600K Review - Introduction AMD FX-8150, FX-8120, FX-6100 and FX-4170 - Introduction Nejsiln?j?? Bulldozer: recenze osmij?dra AMD FX-8150 | ExtraHardware AMD Bulldozer ? procesory FX-8150 a 8120 v testu (1/2) oZeros Review: AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 AMD FX-8150 Processor Review - Bulldozer Arrives - x264 HD Encoding - Legit Reviews HARDOCP - Conclusions - AMD Bulldozer / FX-8150 Desktop Performance Review Έβαλα όσα περισσότερα βρήκα: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=831&Itemid=63 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/12/amd-fx-8150-review/1 http://www.bjorn3d.com/articles/AMD_FX-8150_CPU_Bulldozer/2125.html http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/prozessoren/2011/test-amd-bulldozer/ http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/amd-fx-8150-6100-bulldozer-zambezi-recenze-test?page=0,3 http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150-processor-review/ http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer_fx8150_desktop_performance_review http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/47155-amd-bulldozer-fx-8150-processor-review.html http://www.hardware.fr/articles/842-1/amd-fx-8150-fx-6100-bulldozer-debarque-am3.html http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1285/pg1/amd-fx-8150-black-edition-8-core-processor-vs-core-i7-2600k-review-introduction.html http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/32110-amd-bulldozer-fx-8150/ http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752 http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-FX8150-8Core-Processor-Review-Bulldozer-Has-Landed/ http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8150fx_8120fx_6100_and_fx_4170,1.html http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1741/1/ http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=102&Itemid=1 http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000220/AMD-FX-8150-Bulldozer-CPU-review#axzz1aKr1ZQF4 http://www.ozeros.com/2011/10/review-amd-bulldozer-fx-8150/ http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-FX-8150-Processor-Review-Can-Bulldozer-Unearth-AMD-Victory http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/procesory-pameti/22227-amd-bulldozer-procesory-fx-8150-a-8120-v-testu-1-2?start=14 http://www.pureoverclock.com/article1376.html http://www.techspot.com/review/452-amd-bulldozer-fx-cpus/ http://www.techstation.it/hardware/articoli/amd-fx-il-ritorno-al-vertice/introduzione http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043.html http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/amd_fx_8150_bulldozer_cpu_review,1.html http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8150-cpu-overclocking-review-a-bulldozer-for-gamers-/13694-12.html http://atenra.blog.com/2011/10/12/amd-fx-processor-launch/ Ήσουν κι εσύ εκεί; Edited October 12, 2011 by George_o/c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten-Ra Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 ehehe yeap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted October 12, 2011 Author Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Ορίστε όλα τα βασικά επίσημα slides, όπως έχουν αυτή τη στιγμή, τα περισσότερα όπως τα έδειξαν στο briefing call. Δεν ξέρω γιατί τα έκαναν έτσι, αφού έβλεπαν ότι δεν τραβάνε σε σχέση με τους SandyBridge... Τα έβαλα με την μορφή Print Screen όπως ήταν από το event για να δείτε ότι έτσι έχει η κατάσταση τώρα. Το Marketing Dept επιβάρυνε αρκετά την ήδη δύσκολη κατάσταση. Δείτε τα slides και μετά δείτε όλα τα reviews. Edited October 12, 2011 by George_o/c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekan Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Hardwareheaven 10/10 και 9/10 με τέτοιες επιδόσεις; Πουλημένο review, μην το διαβάσετε καν παίδες. So that brings us to Sapphire who have created an exceptional 6950. There isn't much we haven't covered about this range of card before but Sapphire still managed to impress us with their decision to offer a pre-flashed second BIOS with additional shaders (and performance) available. The card is also overclocked at the factory and has a great bundle including Dirt 3 and from some retailers, Deus EX Human Revolution. Add to this a free HDMI cable, overclocking tool and near silent running and we have the best 6950 we have tested so far. Άρες μάρες κουκουνάρες. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...