zoro Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 πολυ ντορος για το τιποτα! αντε να μη μας δουλεψουν οι δισκοι με τις τσοντες ! εδω οι κινεζοι ταιζαν τα μωρα τους με μελαμινη, οι φαρμακοβιομηχανιες και οι φαγητοβιομηχανιες μας αντιμετωπιζουν ως πειραματοζωα, θελετε κι αλλα?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AN7 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) Για το τι λέει η Gigabyte δεν με νοιάζει. Απλά έχω χρέος να post-άρω τα Press Release, για αυτό το έβαλα Όσο για αυτά που λες στο post, που τα διάβασες; Γιατί εγώ βασίζομαι σε αυτό: σόρυ. δεν έλεγαν 2, αλλά 3 What About Current Sandy Bridge Owners? On its conference call to discuss the issue, Intel told me that it hasnʼt been made aware of a single failure seen by end users. Intel expects that over 3 years of use it would see a failure rate of approximately 5 - 15% depending on usage model. Remember this problem isnʼt a functional issue but rather one of those nasty statistical issues, so by nature it should take time to show up in large numbers (at the same time there should still be some very isolated incidents of failure early on). -anandtech- Edited February 1, 2011 by George_o/c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 Όσοι αναζητούν και μια πιο επιστημονική απάντηση, here you go: The problem in the chipset was traced back to a transistor in the 3Gbps PLL clocking tree. The aforementioned transistor has a very thin gate oxide, which allows you to turn it on with a very low voltage. Unfortunately in this case Intel biased the transistor with too high of a voltage, resulting in higher than expected leakage current. Depending on the physical characteristics of the transistor the leakage current here can increase over time which can ultimately result in this failure on the 3Gbps ports. The fact that the 3Gbps and 6Gbps circuits have their own independent clocking trees is what ensures that this problem is limited to only ports 2 - 5 off the controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AN7 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Μην κάνεις c/p ότι σου δίνω στο msn αν δεν έχει τα copyrights μου πάνω.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aten-Ra Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Intel NewsRoom Intel Identifies Chipset Design Error, Implementing Solution SANTA CLARA, Calif., Jan. 31, 2011 - As part of ongoing quality assurance, Intel Corporation has discovered a design issue in a recently released support chip, the Intel® 6 Series, code-named Cougar Point, and has implemented a silicon fix. In some cases, the Serial-ATA (SATA) ports within the chipsets may degrade over time, potentially impacting the performance or functionality of SATA-linked devices such as hard disk drives and DVD-drives. The chipset is utilized in PCs with Intel's latest Second Generation Intel Core processors, code-named Sandy Bridge. Intel has stopped shipment of the affected support chip from its factories. Intel has corrected the design issue, and has begun manufacturing a new version of the support chip which will resolve the issue. The Sandy Bridge microprocessor is unaffected and no other products are affected by this issue. The company expects to begin delivering the updated version of the chipset to customers in late February and expects full volume recovery in April. Intel stands behind its products and is committed to product quality. For computer makers and other Intel customers that have bought potentially affected chipsets or systems, Intel will work with its OEM partners to accept the return of the affected chipsets, and plans to support modifications or replacements needed on motherboards or systems. The systems with the affected support chips have only been shipping since January 9th and the company believes that relatively few consumers are impacted by this issue. The only systems sold to an end customer potentially impacted are Second Generation Core i5 and Core i7 quad core based systems. Intel believes that consumers can continue to use their systems with confidence, while working with their computer manufacturer for a permanent solution. For further information consumers should contact Intel at Laptop, Notebook, Desktop, Server and Embedded Processor Technology - Intel on the support page or contact their OEM manufacturer. For the first quarter of 2011, Intel expects this issue to reduce revenue by approximately $300 million as the company discontinues production of the current version of the chipset and begins manufacturing the new version. Full-year revenue is not expected to be materially affected by the issue. Total cost to repair and replace affected materials and systems in the market is estimated to be $700 million. Since this issue affected some of the chipset units shipped and produced in the fourth quarter of 2010, the company will take a charge against cost of goods sold, which is expected to reduce the fourth quarter gross margin percentage by approximately 4 percentage points from the previously reported 67.5 percent. The company will also take a charge in the first quarter of 2011which will lower the previously communicated gross margin percentage by 2 percentage points and the full-year gross margin percentage by one percentage point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 ^^ Όλο αυτό περιλαμβάνεται στην πηγή που έχω βάλει στο τέλος του πρώτου post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 ^^ Όλο αυτό περιλαμβάνεται στην πηγή που έχω βάλει στο τέλος του πρώτου post και στο δικο μου ποστ απο πάνω. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten-Ra Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Καλά μην βαράτε, είναι μια ώρα δύσκολη Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 οκ.~. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten-Ra Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Gigabyte Announces 6-series Motherboard Replacement Program - AnandTech The key messages are as follows: 1) Gigabyte has stopped shipment to and recalled any unsold 6-series B2 motherboards from distributors and dealers. 2) Any Gigabyte 6-series B2 motherboards that have already been sold will be accepted back for replacement with a B3 board, regardless of condition. I asked Gigabyte if this meant that non-working boards could also be returned, Gigabyte said yes - all eligible 6-series models with B2 stepping chipsets will be accepted back. Elligible Gigabyte 6-series Motherboards GA-P67A-UD3 GA-P67A-UD3P GA-P67A-UD4 GA-P67A-UD5 GA-P67A-UD7 GA-H67MA-D2H GA-H67MA-UD2H GA-H67A-UD3H GA-H67M-D2 GA-H67M-UD2H 3) Gigabyte says that it should have 6-series B3 chipsets in April. 4) The replacement program will happen at the dealer/distributor level. You will have to exchange your board at the location you purchased it from. 5) Customers can either exchange their board (you'll have to wait until April for this to happen) or you can get a full refund sooner (immediately?). Gigabyte recommends going the refund route as that gives you more flexibility for what you want to do next. 6) The replacement board you get will be a brand new motherboard based on the B3 chipset. Gigabyte isnʼt ready to disclose if there will be any new design features to these boards as well. 7) The cost of the product exchange will be handled by Intel and Gigabyte (presumably Intel is footing the entire bill). Μια χαρά, πιστεύω θα έχουμε το ίδιο και από τους άλλους κατασκευαστές μητρικών. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard! Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Δεν ξέρω αν είναι θέμα με το chipset αλλά εμένα το Raid5 που είναι στις 4 πόρτες με το πρόβλημα, μου το έκανε πτάνα... Μετά τις πολλές αποτυχημένες προσπάθειες να δουλέψει, κάποια στιγμή το έβγαλε σε κατάσταση rebuild. Όταν τελικά μετά από 13 ημέρες κατάφερα να στήσω το μηχάνημα, και μπήκε Win, ξεκίνησε το rebuild το οποίο όμως γινόταν υπερβολικά αργά! Μου έχει τύχει πάλι να σπάσει το raid, και έκανε full rebuild σε 6-7 ώρες. Το άφησα Δευτέρα προς Τρίτη να κάνει rebuild και Τρίτη απόγευμα στις 7 ήταν μόλις στο 3% !!! Με τα πολλά, μετά από 2-3 ώρες σπάει το raid και μου βγάζει τον ένα δίσκο ως failed. Μπαίνω bios, τον βγάζω, τον βάζω ξανά και bootάρω. Μπαίνει στα Win, αρχίζει πάλι το rebuild και περιμένω.... Ανοίγω όμως κάποια στιγμή το δίσκο και βλέπω ΟΛΑ τα folders με λουκετάκι!!! Ανοίγω ένα ένα να δω τι γίνεται και τα δεδομένα φαίνονται κανονικά, εκτός από το My Music όπου δε με αφήνει καν να το ανοίξω. Πάω να σβήσω τα temps και μου λέει ότι το Recycle Bin είναι corrupted!!! Επιλέγω να κάνει έλεγχο στο δίσκο και κάνω reboot. Αυτό εχθές στις 10 το βράδυ... Σήμερα το πρωί που έφυγα δεν είχε τελειώσει ακόμα το checkdisk... Μπ@υρδέλα!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard! Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Με τη σειρά της και η Asus: Proactively responding to the Intel-identified Sandy Bridge chipset design error Taipei, Taiwan (February 1, 2011) — Intel® on January 31, 2011 announced the detection of a design error in the new Sandy Bridge-based Intel® 6 Series support chip, also known as Cougar Point. The shipment of existing Sandy Bridge products has been suspended by Intel®, and the production of an updated support chip has commenced. The design error affects only the support chip, and not 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processors such as the i5 and i7.Acting on our philosophy and promise of inspiring innovation and persistent perfection, we've created a comprehensive response to this development to safeguard the best interest of ASUS customers around the world. We will provide total warranty services to maximize computing and usability, as each ASUS product is delivered with an uncompromising quality pledge. This includes the hassle-free return and/or replacement of all affected ASUS products. Weʼre doing all this effective immediately – and as a first step, shipments of current ASUS Sandy Bridge-based products have been halted. The suspension covers all distribution and retail channels — ASUS only sells quality-assured products, at all times and across all product segments. For all customers who already own any ASUS product affected by the design error identified by Intel®, simply visit Proactively responding to the Intel-identified Sandy Bridge chipset design error for detailed warranty and service hotline information. Weʼll be happy to address any questions or concerns you may have regarding this issue, as well as provide information on future updates to Sandy Bridge technology. ASUS notebook and desktop products are covered by a warranty service that addresses the design error, with both swap and sales return offered as options to customers. For motherboards, weʼve confirmed with Intel® that the Cougar Point design error does not affect SATA ports 0 and 1. Additionally, ASUS has been a pioneer in including extra SATA 3Gb/s and SATA 6Gb/s ports beyond Intel® specifications on a wide range of motherboards. These ports are not affected by this design error, offering customers an option for uninterrupted computing. However, weʼre also offering you the option of returning any possibly affected motherboard for a swap or sales return. All warranties for affected motherboards will be reset to give you enough time to carry out any exchanges. ASUS has also started an initiative to contact customers regarding this issue, and weʼll cover all channel partners, distributors and registered buyers of affected ASUS products. As mentioned above, you may opt to return any affected products to ASUS for a swap or sales return. Weʼll post updates through our official website and other channels regarding any developments or fixes to Sandy Bridge products. Thank you for your understanding, support and cooperation, and we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. Sincerely, ASUS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofos1990 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 [media] [/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathewgx Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Και με τις Gigabyte μητρικες που κερδιθηκαν στον χριστουγεννιατικο διαγωνισμο τι γινεται ; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinlizzy Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Μια φορά κερδίσαμε και εμείς σε διαγωνισμό...@@@@ την γκαντεμιά μου Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 How to quickly spot degraded P67 S-ATA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AN7 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Γιωργάκη είπες κάτι? 3 χρόνια η 3 μέρες? :time:...:time:...:time:...:time:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$@39@ Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Ρε παιδιά τι έχει γίνει με τα Ρ67???!! Γιατί δεν μπορώ να βρω πουθενά? Τι σημαίνουν όλα αυτά? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Γιωργάκη είπες κάτι?3 χρόνια η 3 μέρες? :time:...:time:...:time:...:time:... 5% εως 15% σε 3 χρόνια. κάτι πήγε πιο στραβά @AMDσακης. δεν πας καλα my nigga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$@39@ Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 :hehe: Αιμ τζόουκινγκ μάι Νίγκα... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Μεμονωμένα περιστατικά είναι ρα. Μην κάνετε το τόσο ΤΟΣΟ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papajim Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Αόμματοι ήταν στην Intel όταν έδιναν τα 6 chipsets για κυκλοφορία ??? PS. Μήπως όσοι έχουν P67 αυτή τη στιγμή μπορούν να τρέξουν μια το HDTune να δούμε αν είναι όντως μεμονωμένα τα περιστατικά ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDnord Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Μεμονωμένα περιστατικά είναι ρα. Μην κάνετε το τόσο ΤΟΣΟ. εχω 2 μητρικες σπίτι, θα με κάνεις να το δοκιμάσω και στις 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_o/c Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Δοκίμασέ τις. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...